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BIM -
What We Are, and are Not
English What We Are
- BSD -
Unix
developers &
consultants & service providers & users, freelancers
& employees & company owners, focusing &
supporting & promoting local BSD-Unix usage, for FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, BSD/OS, (Apple's) Darwin
etc.
- For all member's BSD personal & business benefit, for
both the BSD fun & profit of members, & for the
encouragment of increased BSD development & contribution
back to the wider BSD communities.
- More than just a Berkeley monthly drinkers/ Stammtisch
club, & more than just a BSD local chat list (though both
those are provided too).
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We encourage BSD contacts
in the wider community, & hold/attend periodic BSD
English events.
- Jobs: If anyone finds BSD jobs through BIM, doesn't
matter who & whether employee or freelancer: we're
pleased for them: A more buoyant computer sector, & an
expanded BSD sector in Munich is good for most people's BSD
job security & career/ mobility prospects.
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English We provide certain Internet
services in Munich for BSD systems & people,
Examples:
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Web server space for
BSD compliant source code etc,
- FTP server
- Webmail & Cvsup server
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Mail lists for BSD
activities.
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logins (not dial-ins)
to BSD hosts, including compilers etc.
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To minimise our
(unpaid) support effort, BIM
server
users are
required to interface to our facilities with
BSD or at
least Linux &/or public standards compliant systems
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We have no time to
waste on peoples Microsoft access problems, (unless you
are willing to pay us, in which case we have
consultants available
at
commercial rates).
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Open to all nationalities.
Computer developers use English on international mail lists,
but German is sometimes be used for issues of purely local
scope (but best not for technical issues we may want to refer
to international mail lists)
- Our monthly Stammtisch speaks a
mix of both languages.
- (There are German language mail lists for non
Munich-local stuff,
available via majordomo@DE.FreeBSD.ORG).
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Linux ?
Sorry, not as such. There is
a good choice of Linux
groups here (A few of our membership go to both BIM
& Linux groups, & some BIM members work on Linux
professionaly & BSD privately, etc). If you solely want
to discuss the Linux base systems, excluding all packages.
then a Linux group may appeal more, but do realise the Vast
amount of commonality Linux & BSD systems share, eg GCC
& ghostscript & other FSF & X11 & KDE &
perl & vmware & tens of thousands of other public
source packages that can run on both BSD and Linux. BSD
& Linux on occasion also adopt portions from each
others /usr/src, ideas &/or code, so we co-operate in
that, as in also our common dislike of closed source,
Microsoft, viruses & software patent problems etc.
Our limited free time
mandates a BSD-only approach to the base /usr/src systems
support, (but of course we share an interest in Many apps
with Linux people, etc ).
- We also have some people who regularly go to both our
Stammtisch & a Linux Stammtisch the same
evening.
- We also have people who work with Linux during the
day, & switch to BSD in the evening.
- We also discuss & use common
things, eg FSF, GCC, X Windows, Qt, Tex , FVWM window
manager, EXMH window manager, open office, & a ports collection
of tens of
thousands of packages, doubtless many of which will
run on Linux too, some developed on Linux & merely
ported to BSD, & some other way round).
- We do of course discussing porting stuff to & fro
between Linux & BSD,
- What we do not't cover is Linux specific distro &
interface etc stuff, leaving that to the Linux groups to
discuss.
- Linux magazines are also distributes at thhe the BIM
Stammtisch, eg an article on TeX is equally valid for
Linux & BSD.
- Munich
Linux User Groups
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The
English
Munich
Internet Verein
support
users of all operating system, including Linux. (Some of
their servers are FreeBSD,
some SunOS).
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Micro$oft ?
NO !
We
dislike the company, its products, & environment.
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Either
Convert to BSD (or Linux) (
available on many computers
: ( alpha amiga arc arm32 atari hp300 hppa i386
kbus m68k mac68k mips mvme68k mvme88k pc532 pmax powerpc
sparc sun3 vax wgrisc
latest list on front right column of NetBSD),
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Or Do All Of These:
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Find some other club (
we have no interest in
configuring access for Micro$oft software ).
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Do Not Contact
Us ,
we will
not waste time on Microsoft compatibility problems.
(
One reasons BIM
was
formed, was to avoid being bored & burdened by
clueless Micro$oft users. .)
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Ask your
Micro$oft oriented ISPs, & Vendors For Help, Not
Us !
There are lots of Micro$oft oriented ISPs &
software & system vendors, some of whom made
money selling you software & systems, so burden
them with Micro$oft related problems, Not Us !
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Look for
Some Other Club
that
might help or interest you.
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